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luchtschip schreef op 27 april 2023 00:44:

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Deze man loopt al jaren onzin verhalen te verkopen om aan te tonen, dat het klimaat probleem niet bestaat

21 september 2010

'Chemical nonsense': Leading scientists refute ( weerleggen ) Lord Monckton's attack on climate science

This article is more than 12 years old

Nine 'profoundly wrong' claims made by Ukip deputy leader refuted by climate experts in a document filed with US Congress

A coalition of leading climate scientists yesterday filed a 48-page document to the US Congress refuting an attack on climate science made earlier this year by the Ukip deputy leader, Lord Christopher Monckton.

The detailed rebuttal addresses nine key scientific claims made by Monckton, a prominent climate sceptic, to a house select committee hearing in May. It includes the responses of 21 climate scientists who variously conclude that Monckton's assertions are "very misleading", "profoundly wrong", "simply false", "chemical nonsense", and "cannot be supported by climate physics".

Monckton, a former journalist and policy adviser to Margaret Thatcher, who has been the deputy leader of the UK Independence party (Ukip) since June, was invited by the Republican party to give evidence to the house select committee on energy independence and global warming.

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"For those without some familiarity with climate science, [Monckton's] testimony may appear to have scientific validity," said yesterday's response to Monckton's claims . "We have therefore undertaken the task of soliciting responses from highly qualified climate scientists in each of the areas touched upon in Monckton's testimony … In all cases, Monckton's assertions are shown to be without merit – they are based on a thorough misunderstanding of the science of climate change."

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Bovendien heeft hij nog gelogen door te claimen dat hij lid was van het House of Lords in de UK

During his congressional testimony in May, Monckton was mocked by a Democratic congressman for claiming that he was a member of the House of Lords during a previous committee hearing appearance in 2009.
Last month, the clerk of the parliaments, wrote to Monckton, a hereditary peer, stressing that he should stop referring to himself as a member of the House of Lords.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/...

En nu kom jij met een man, waarvan 21 erkende klimaat wetenschappers, zeggen dat Monckton's beweringen "zeer misleidend", "diepgaand zeer verkeerd", "simpel gezegd vals", "chemische nonsens" en "niet gesteund kunnen worden door klimaat natuurkunde"

Je probeert bij herhaling forumleden op het verkeerde been te zetten met pseudo wetenschappers, die gewoon notoire leugenaars zijn met een goede babbeltruc

Geen enkel goed nadenkend forum lid trapt nog in deze charlatans, die jij op dit forum steeds het woord geeft

Je bent bezig met een ernstige misleiding van de lezers van dit forum

>>>Het is wetenschappelijk aanvaard en de wetenschappelijke consensus dat CO2, vrijgekomen door fossiele verbranding, directe oorzaak is voor de door de mens beïnvloedde stijging van de temperatuur

Er is een overduidelijk samengaan van gebruik fossiele brandstoffen en temperatuur stijging sinds 1850--de industriële revolutie--tot 1960 en de versnelling na 1960 door het explosieve gebruik van fossiele brandstoffen na 1960 ( enorme productie ontwikkelingen, transport ontwikkelingen gepaard met veel scheep-- en luchtvaart en auto verkeer )

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Ronald Engels schreef op 27 april 2023 01:29:

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luchtschip,

Je blijft geloven in jouw en onze overheden manipulaties, succes daarmee, echter al is de leugen nog zo snel, de waarheid achterhaalt hem altijd.

Dus beste vriend met zekerheid koelt Planeet Aarde af de komende 30 jaar sinds juni 2016 tot ruwweg 2053 en wellicht na 2053 nog meer afkoeling!

Bovendien de energietransitie, de groene H2 energie, windmolens, van het Gas Af, met zekerheid zijn dit de allergrootste stommiteiten van onze Nederlandse en EU (niet-democratische) politieke onverstand elites van deze eeuw, de opkomst van de dictatuur en groene terreur en de afschaffing van onze Vrijheid.

Boontje (de EU en NL) komt om zijn loontje, zeker, binnen nu en uiterlijk 10 jaar, de EU de afgrond in door totale gekkigheid van de politieke onverstand elites.

M.v.g. Ronald
P.S. Doei!

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Ronald Engels schreef op 26 april 2023 23:47:

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rationeel,

ter info: The economics behind Windmills!

youtu.be/ZH4m-Cs-u3Y

M.v.g. Ronald

P.S. BdB, zie en hoor het gezond verstand wat onze politici, de Nederlandse groene dwazen voorop, totaal hebben verloren.

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Beperktedijkbewaking schreef op 26 april 2023 17:23:

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OK, die post van jou met de link naar Roorda was langer geleden dan ik dacht.
Ik heb (eer)gisteren enkele dagen op dit forum teruggezocht, maar kon het toen niet vinden.

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Ronald Engels schreef op 27 april 2023 01:29:

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luchtschip,

Je blijft geloven in jouw en onze overheden manipulaties, succes daarmee, echter al is de leugen nog zo snel, de waarheid achterhaalt hem altijd.

Dus beste vriend met zekerheid koelt Planeet Aarde af de komende 30 jaar sinds juni 2016 tot ruwweg 2053 en wellicht na 2053 nog meer afkoeling!

Bovendien de energietransitie, de groene H2 energie, windmolens, van het Gas Af, met zekerheid zijn dit de allergrootste stommiteiten van onze Nederlandse en EU (niet-democratische) politieke onverstand elites van deze eeuw, de opkomst van de dictatuur en groene terreur en de afschaffing van onze Vrijheid.

Boontje (de EU en NL) komt om zijn loontje, zeker, binnen nu en uiterlijk 10 jaar, de EU de afgrond in door totale gekkigheid van de politieke onverstand elites.

M.v.g. Ronald
P.S. Doei!

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josti5 schreef op 27 april 2023 09:52:

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Welkom in de ecocratie...

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rationeel schreef op 27 april 2023 08:54:

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Sorry BDB:) Discussie afgebroken:(

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Succes schreef op 28 april 2023 14:58:

Study reveals secrets to Southern Ocean’s critical role in slowing climate change revealed

The Southern Ocean (SO) plays a central role in mitigating global warming, accounting for ~40% of the ocean’s anthropogenic CO2 absorption and 60 to 90% of ocean warming caused by human activities. It is unclear how the production of each biogenic carbon pool contributes to the contemporary air–sea CO2 exchange.

An important component of the Southern Oceanic carbon cycle, the “biological pump,” where carbon is used by organisms at the surface and moved to ocean depths, away from atmospheric interaction, is discussed in the new research.

The NOAA Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory’s Yibin Huang and Andrea Fassbender, along with Seth Bushinsky, an assistant professor of oceanography at the University of Hawaii at Manoa School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology (SOEST), led the scientific team.

To quantify for the first time the role that microscopic organisms called phytoplankton play in the Southern Ocean CO2 absorption from the atmosphere through their creation of various types of biogenic (caused by living organisms) carbon, researchers looked at data gathered from more than 60 autonomous profiling floats over ten years. The effects of various biogenic carbon types on carbon export and the exchange of CO2 between the atmosphere and ocean vary.

Lead author Huang, a Cooperative Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research scientist at the Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory, said that simultaneously monitoring the three different types of carbon produced by biological activity has posed a longstanding challenge for oceanographers. Due to the complexity of traditional methods, scientists usually treat the total carbon production as a black box.

“Our study applies a recently developed method for estimating the production and export of distinct biogenic carbon pools in a cost-effective way and at ocean basin scales to monitor how marine ecosystems function and their response to future climate change,” said Huang.

Regional biogeochemistry is shaped by the interaction of physical and biological processes through the distinctive Southern Ocean circulation south of 35°South Latitude, which affects the interior of the world’s oceans. Deep waters rich in dissolved inorganic carbon come into contact with the atmosphere due to an upwelling that is now occurring south of the Antarctic Circumpolar Current.

The deep waters are also nutrient-rich, which supports biological activity, which is at its height in the spring and summer. Some phytoplankton species use dissolved inorganic carbon to make their exoskeletons, and they transport it to depth when they die.

Although plankton thrives in this warm, rich water, they cannot effectively use the nutrients and dissolved inorganic carbon that upwelling brings to the top. Locally, some of the dissolved inorganic carbon is released into the air. Large-scale circulation then transports the wasted nutrients toward the equator, powering a significant portion of the biological production in the subtropics and tropics. The slowing in phytoplankton growth during the winter, when deep-water mixing is most active, shapes the seasonal pattern of carbon cycling in the Southern Ocean.

The research focuses on estimating the amount of dissolved inorganic carbon utilized by these tiny organisms and exploring how the natural process of carbon export impacts the modern air-sea exchange of CO2.

The researchers discovered that whereas particle inorganic carbon production reduces CO2 uptake by around 270 million tonnes annually, organic carbon production captures nearly 3 billion tonnes of carbon annually, comparable to about 25% of all human emissions. The biological pump’s effects on the local air-sea CO2 exchange are influenced by variations in the amounts of each type of carbon produced from north to south across the Southern Ocean.

The Southern Ocean would be a source of CO2 to the atmosphere if plankton weren’t eating carbon throughout the growing season in the southern hemisphere.

Fassbender said, “The significant role played by phytoplankton in the modern Southern Ocean carbon sink suggests that understanding year-to-year variability in biogenic carbon production may be of central importance to understanding variability in the overall Southern Ocean carbon sink.”

“Expanding persistent year-round observations from biogeochemical profiling floats would be a cost-effective way to monitor the biological pump throughout the Southern Ocean and globally.”

www.techexplorist.com/secrets-souther...

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luchtschip schreef op 27 april 2023 04:45:

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Overheden nemen inzake het klimaatprobleem de kennis en adviezen in acht van een zeer grote groep in het klimaat gespecialiseerde. wetenschappers

Ik heb vertrouwen in de wetenschap en zie dat het beleid van overheden daarop afgestemd is

Jij mag een mening ontwikkelen, die haaks staat op de consensus van de wetenschappers gespecialiseerd in het klimaat
En aan dit forum kun je dit uitleggen met onderbouwing van echte wetenschappers op het gebied van het klimaat

Maar het is ongepast dit forum te bestoken met "wetenschappers", die onjuistheden verkondigen en in veel gevallen bedrieglijke flagrante leugens vertellen

Op deze wijze verstoor je en saboteer je een goede meningsvorming op dit forum

Het is respectloos richting de lezers van dit forum met dubieuze "wetenschappelijke" verhalen de discussie te ontregelen

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closer schreef op 28 april 2023 21:55:

Zie bijlage van Jip van den Toorn

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Succes schreef op 28 april 2023 14:58:

Study reveals secrets to Southern Ocean’s critical role in slowing climate change revealed

The Southern Ocean (SO) plays a central role in mitigating global warming, accounting for ~40% of the ocean’s anthropogenic CO2 absorption and 60 to 90% of ocean warming caused by human activities. It is unclear how the production of each biogenic carbon pool contributes to the contemporary air–sea CO2 exchange.

An important component of the Southern Oceanic carbon cycle, the “biological pump,” where carbon is used by organisms at the surface and moved to ocean depths, away from atmospheric interaction, is discussed in the new research.

The NOAA Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory’s Yibin Huang and Andrea Fassbender, along with Seth Bushinsky, an assistant professor of oceanography at the University of Hawaii at Manoa School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology (SOEST), led the scientific team.

To quantify for the first time the role that microscopic organisms called phytoplankton play in the Southern Ocean CO2 absorption from the atmosphere through their creation of various types of biogenic (caused by living organisms) carbon, researchers looked at data gathered from more than 60 autonomous profiling floats over ten years. The effects of various biogenic carbon types on carbon export and the exchange of CO2 between the atmosphere and ocean vary.
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“Our study applies a recently developed method for estimating the production and export of distinct biogenic carbon pools in a cost-effective way and at ocean basin scales to monitor how marine ecosystems function and their response to future climate change,” said Huang.
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The deep waters are also nutrient-rich, which supports biological activity, which is at its height in the spring and summer. Some phytoplankton species use dissolved inorganic carbon to make their exoskeletons, and they transport it to depth when they die.

Although plankton thrives in this warm, rich water, they cannot effectively use the nutrients and dissolved inorganic carbon that upwelling brings to the top. Locally, some of the dissolved inorganic carbon is released into the air. Large-scale circulation then transports the wasted nutrients toward the equator, powering a significant portion of the biological production in the subtropics and tropics. The slowing in phytoplankton growth during the winter, when deep-water mixing is most active, shapes the seasonal pattern of carbon cycling in the Southern Ocean.

The research focuses on estimating the amount of dissolved inorganic carbon utilized by these tiny organisms and exploring how the natural process of carbon export impacts the modern air-sea exchange of CO2.

The researchers discovered that whereas particle inorganic carbon production reduces CO2 uptake by around 270 million tonnes annually, organic carbon production captures nearly 3 billion tonnes of carbon annually, comparable to about 25% of all human emissions. The biological pump’s effects on the local air-sea CO2 exchange are influenced by variations in the amounts of each type of carbon produced from north to south across the Southern Ocean.

The Southern Ocean would be a source of CO2 to the atmosphere if plankton weren’t eating carbon throughout the growing season in the southern hemisphere.

Fassbender said, “The significant role played by phytoplankton in the modern Southern Ocean carbon sink suggests that understanding year-to-year variability in biogenic carbon production may be of central importance to understanding variability in the overall Southern Ocean carbon sink.”

“Expanding persistent year-round observations from biogeochemical profiling floats would be a cost-effective way to monitor the biological pump throughout the Southern Ocean and globally.”

www.techexplorist.com/secrets-souther...

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!@#$!@! schreef op 2 mei 2023 11:19:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBkccyotgJ4

Met 100% zekerheid heb ik kunnen vaststellen dat de bijbel van kennis een flinke warmtesprong voorspelt voor de komende 2 jaar, als onderdeel van de steeds warmere el nino cycle.

Laat je niet in de luren leggen door alle leugens en bedrog van de IPCC die er niks vanaf weten en ons beloven dat we de stijging kunnen beperken tot 1,5C. Allemaal propaganda en misinformatie om de meute in toom te houden.

Dit alles is nog maar het begin van de komende opwarming van Planeet Aarde de komende eeuwen!
Met 100% zekerheid zullen we dan weer palmbomen op de noordpool hebben. Dit hebben we al eerder gehad en gezond verstand laat ons weten dat dat nu weer zal gebeuren.