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KaPeeN63 8 augustus 2013 20:24

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Ka is ook weer terug. Net copuleus gegeten van de virtuele winst van vandaag van
Kpn, postnl, binck, arcelor en philips.
Dat is genieten al deze jongens in mijn portefeuille.

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 20:33

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KaPeeN63 schreef op 8 augustus 2013 20:24:
Ka is ook weer terug. Net copuleus gegeten van de virtuele winst van vandaag van
Kpn, postnl, binck, arcelor en philips.
Dat is genieten al deze jongens in mijn portefeuille.

Hahaha het is copieus eten hoor :-). jij hebt heel ondeugend gegeten.....heb je met de serveerster gecopuleerd :-)

novital 8 augustus 2013 20:47

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tbalrac schreef op 8 augustus 2013 20:33:
[...]Hahaha het is copieus eten hoor :-). jij hebt heel ondeugend gegeten.....heb je met de serveerster gecopuleerd :-)

Ha ha, ja hoor, dat heeft ie.
"Mijn klasgenoten bedreven de liefde met alles wat bewoog, maar ik zag de noodzaak niet om mezelf in te houden."

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 20:48

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novital schreef op 8 augustus 2013 20:15:
[...]

Ik stond op het punt om een exemplaar te kopen van “De Kracht van Positief Denken”, tot ik me bedacht, want waar zou dat nou in ’s hemelsnaam goed voor kunnen zijn.

Welja, moest iedereen vanaf nu positief denken, en dit uiten, dan zul je de kracht van positief denken zien in de prijs van kpn. maar veel succes om iedereen (van carlos tot blok) positief te laten denken over kpn... maar ik zal alvast meedoen! weiger nog geld in de tent te steken, ondanks de lage koers van slechts 2 euro. ook niet gedaan op 1.50
ik ga doen zoals slim, en positief denken en geduld hebben. er komt een dag dat ik mijn speeder/turbo terug ga verkopen op break even! (lol, dan zouden er hier heel veel mensen zeer tevreden zijn) verlies staat nu nog op -30% kom van -70% vanaf nu altijd stop-loss order gebruiken. zeker na winst! (dure les)

KaPeeN63 8 augustus 2013 20:50

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tbalrac schreef op 8 augustus 2013 20:33:
[...]Hahaha het is copieus eten hoor :-). jij hebt heel ondeugend gegeten.....heb je met de serveerster gecopuleerd :-)

Toch nog een oplettende lezer, met opzet dit foutje gemaakt. De serveerster was trouwens wel Top.

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:00

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ik heb het weer gepost maar goed... (oud nieuws)

America Movil Free to Raise KPN Stake as Pact Ends
www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-29/ame...

Billionaire Carlos Slim’s America Movil SAB (AMXL) ended an agreement with Royal KPN NV (KPN) that capped the Mexican company’s stake in the Dutch phone carrier at about 30 percent, clearing the way for it to boost its stake.

KPN shares jumped as much as 5.6 percent after KPN and America Movil, its largest shareholder, said the Feb. 20 pact is being terminated immediately. If it raises its stake above 30 percent, Mexico City-based America Movil would have to bid for all of the company’s shares, according to Dutch law.
Enlarge image Billionaire Carlos Slim

Billionaire Carlos Slim would now be freer to use KPN as a means to expand in Europe as the region's telecommunications market consolidates. Photographer: Susana Gonzalez/Bloomberg
Carlos Slim Sees Opportunities in Indonesia, Asia
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April 29 (Bloomberg) -- Mexican Billionaire Carlos Slim talks about investment opportunities in Latin America and Asia. He speaks with Larry King at the Milken Institute 2013 Global Conference in Los Angeles. (Excerpt. Source: Bloomberg)
Enlarge image America Movil Free to Raise KPN Stake Above 30% as Pact Ends

America Movil bought its stake in KPN last year, bidding 8 euros a share. Photographer: Jock Fistick/Bloomberg
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Slim now has more freedom to use KPN to expand in Europe as the region’s telecommunications market consolidates. America Movil spent about $4 billion increasing its stake in KPN last year, after bidding 8 euros a share. The stock now trades at less than 2 euros.

“We still believe America Movil came to Europe to have a stronghold in several countries, not to consolidate or break up KPN,” said Javier Borrachero, an analyst at Kepler Capital Markets, in a note today

KPN traded 4.6 percent higher at 1.98 euros at the close in Amsterdam. The stock had fallen to 1.39 euros in June. America Movil slid 3.3 percent to 13.34 pesos. It has lost 10 percent this year in Mexico City trading.
German Deal

America Movil didn’t say in its statement whether it plans to raise its holding in former Dutch phone monopoly KPN.

To buy KPN outright, America Movil would need to cancel a share buyback and obtain $4 billion of debt financing, Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. analysts said in a note last week. It could also partner with AT&T Inc. for a bid, they said.

Last week, KPN agreed to sell its German wireless carrier E-Plus to Telefonica Deutschland Holding AG (O2D), controlled by Spain’s largest phone company and owner of the O2 brand in Germany, in a deal valued at 8.1 billion euros ($10.7 billion). It’s unclear whether Slim personally supports the E-Plus sale, two people familiar with the matter have said.

“The deal is likely to go through as it would be hard for America Movil to scupper a deal at a vote in the absence of a better alternative and we do not think America Movil has the balance sheet to muster one,” Robin Bienenstock, an analyst at Sanford, said in an e-mail.
Board Members

America Movil may keep its two nominees on KPN’s supervisory board as long as it holds a stake of 20 percent or more, the companies said.

“America Movil has continued to evaluate the expansion of its operations in other regions outside the Americas,” the company said last year in a statement. “Geographic diversification is a key element that has provided great stability to its cash flow and profitability.”

The Netherlands is emerging as one center of dealmaking activity as intensifying competition and slowing sales in Europe’s telecommunications industry is leading to consolidation. John Malone’s Liberty Global Plc said last week it raised its stake in Dutch cable-television operator Ziggo NV (ZIGGO), a KPN rival, to 28.5 percent from 18.2 percent, which it said was for strategic reasons.

Ziggo shares jumped as much as 5.9 percent to 29.60 euros and were up 4.1 percent at 29.08 euros at 11:48 a.m. in Amsterdam.

To contact the reporter on this story: Adam Ewing in Stockholm at aewing5@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Kenneth Wong at kwong11@bloomberg.net

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:02

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Telecom Italia Writedowns Exceed $18 Billion Since 2011
By Daniele Lepido - Aug 2, 2013 2:37 PM GMT+0200

www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-02/tel...

Telecom Italia SpA (TIT)’s 2.2 billion-euro ($2.9 billion) goodwill writedown for the first half brings the amount of impairment losses by Italy’s largest phone company to 14 billion euros since 2011 as its stock heads for the ninth consecutive annual decline.

The cost sank Milan-based Telecom Italia into a net loss of 1.41 billion euros, compared with net income of 1.24 billion euros a year earlier. The carrier reported 7.4 billion euros in goodwill writedowns in 2011, followed by 4.3 billion euros in 2012. Telecom Italia today cut its full-year earnings forecast as wireless competition intensifies.
Enlarge image Telecom Italia Reports First-Half Loss on $2.9 Billion Writedown

Logos for Telecom Italia SpA and the company's mobile unit TIM sit near satellite dishes and radio antennas on a communications tower in Rome. Photographer Alessia Pierdomenico/Bloomberg

With its debt rating one step shy of junk and after failing to sell a stake to Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. (13), Telecom Italia is working on spinning off its fixed-line assets to bargain for a regulatory reprieve. Chief Executive Officer Franco Bernabe is relying on growth in Brazil and Argentina, which account for about 40 percent of the company’s revenue, to offset a slump in its home market.

“It’s a mistake to believe the spinoff may solve all the phone company’s problems, as it is only one ingredient of a recipe,” Oreste Pollicino, a professor at Bocconi University, said in a phone interview. “Telecom Italia should aim to solve its financial issues by exploiting the most valuable markets like Brazil and Argentina.”
Italy Slump

Telecom Italia will continue to pursue consolidation opportunities even after talks to combine with Hutchison’s local unit ended because of valuation differences, Bernabe said during a conference call. The CEO ruled out a capital increase or a sale of the Brazilian business to reach a debt-reduction target.

The shares fell 3.9 percent to 49.2 cents at 2:36 p.m. in Milan. Down 28 percent this year, the stock is the worst performer on the 24-company Bloomberg Europe Telecommunication Services Index, which has gained 9.3 percent.

Telecom Italia has a market value of 8.9 billion euros. That compares with its 28.8 billion-euro in adjusted net debt at the end of June. Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s Investors Service both rank the carrier’s debt at the lowest investment grade. The carrier today confirmed its goal to lower the measure to less than 27 billion euros this year.
Downgrade Risks

“The previously mentioned unfavorable macroeconomic and market context also forces us to consider the downgrading of the credit rating assigned by the rating agencies as one of the possible risks that the company must face,” Bernabe said in a note.

Credit-default swaps insuring Telecom Italia’s debt for five years rose as much as 7.7 percent to 368 basis points, signaling a deterioration in creditworthiness. The derivatives pay the buyer face value in exchange for the underlying securities or the cash equivalent should a borrower fail to adhere to its debt agreements.

First-half revenue declined 7 percent to 13.76 billion euros, compared with the 13.7 billion-euro average estimate of four analysts compiled by Bloomberg.

Sales in Italy, where competitors include Vodafone Group Plc (VOD) and VimpelCom Ltd. (VIP)’s Wind unit, slumped 10 percent, while Ebitda dropped 13 percent. The carrier didn’t break out second-quarter figures.
Argentina, Brazil

Earlier this week, Tim Participacoes SA (TIMP3), Telecom Italia’s Brazilian unit, reported an 8.7 percent jump in second-quarter revenue and a 12 percent increase in net income. The Argentinian unit boosted first-half sales by 22 percent and profit by 14 percent.

Spain’s Telefonica SA (TEF) is the biggest investor in Telco SpA, the holding company that owns almost 22.5 percent of Telecom Italia. Other holders are Assicurazioni Generali SpA (G), Intesa Sanpaolo SpA (ISP) and Mediobanca SpA. (MB)

Telco’s partners, which agreed in February 2012 to renew their agreement for three years with an exit option in September 2013 and August 2014, may use the first window in September to revoke the accord, a person with knowledge of the matter has said. Yesterday, Generali CEO Mario Greco said the insurer would dispose of its Telecom Italia stake under the right conditions, while Generali hasn’t made a decision on an eventual exit from Telco in September.

Last month, Telecom Italia said it ended talks with Hong Kong billionaire Li Ka-shing’s Hutchison to combine their Italian mobile-phone businesses. Weeks later, Telefonica and Royal KPN NV (KPN) agreed to merge their German wireless businesses to become the country’s biggest carrier by customers.

To contact the reporter on this story: Daniele Lepido in Milan at dlepido1@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Kenneth Wong at kwong11@bloomberg.net

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:03

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Kabel Deutschland Board Backs $10 Billion Takeover by Vodafone
By Amy Thomson - Aug 2, 2013 11:03 AM GMT+0200

www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-02/kab...

Kabel Deutschland Holding AG’s board advised shareholders to accept Vodafone (VOD) Group Plc’s 7.7 billion-euro ($10.2 billion) offer, clearing the way for the third-largest European telecommunications deal this year.

The 87-euro-per-share price, which includes a 2.50 euro dividend payment, is “fair from a financial point of view” and the deal will strengthen both companies, Kabel Deutschland’s supervisory and management boards said today in a statement.

Kabel Deutschland, Germany’s biggest cable company, is a key part of Vodafone’s plan to expand outside of wireless service. Vodafone said yesterday that it will reorganize by combining its northern and southern European units to make it easier to sell packages of phone, Internet and television across the continent. Vodafone had to fend off competing offers from John Malone’s Liberty Global Plc which is also pursuing a combined-services strategy.

“After a full appraisal of the offer document, we consider the offer to be financially attractive and strategically promising,” Kabel Deutschland Chief Executive Officer Adrian Von Hammerstein said in the statement. “Kabel Deutschland and Vodafone complement each other ideally.”

Liberty Global’s $16 billion purchase of the U.K.’s Virgin Media Inc. is the largest telecommunications deal announced in Europe so far this year, followed by Telefonica SA (TEF)’s 8.1 billion euro offer for Royal KPN NV’s E-Plus unit in Germany, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Vodafone, based in Newbury, England, has said it won’t make significant divestments of Kabel Deutschland’s assets or fire a large number of employees as part of the deal. Germany is Vodafone’s biggest market, accounting for about 18 percent of annual sales, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

This week, Vodafone also received approval from Germany’s financial regulators to publish the details of its offer document. Shareholders have until Sept. 11 to decide on the bid. The companies aim to wrap up the deal following Kabel Deutschland’s Oct. 10 annual shareholder meeting, pending antitrust approval, people familiar with the matter have said.

Vodafone shares fell 0.2 percent to 199.80 pence at 10:02 a.m. in London. Kabel Deutschland was little changed at 84.58 euros on the Frankfurt exchange.

To contact the reporter on this story: Amy Thomson in London at athomson6@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Kenneth Wong at kwong11@bloomberg.net

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:05

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Dit is wel zeer belangerijk vindt ik...

Germany Opens Airwave Review on Telefonica-KPN Mobile Merger
By Karin Matussek - Aug 5, 2013 12:35 PM GMT+0200

www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-05/ger...

Telefonica SA (TEF) and Royal KPN NV (KPN), which have proposed to merge their German mobile-phone assets, could be forced to give up some wireless frequencies, according to the country’s telecommunications regulator.

The airwaves for carrying signals based on GSM and UMTS standards were granted under the condition that their users remain independent, Iris Henseler-Unger, vice president of the Federal Network Agency, wrote in a letter to Thorsten Dirks, chief executive officer of KPN’s E-Plus unit, and his counterpart at Telefonica Deutschland Holding AG (O2D), Rene Schuster, after a conference call on July 23.
Enlarge image Germany Opens Airwave Review on Telefonica-KPN Wireless Merger

O2 and E-Plus together would have a customer base of more than 43 million as of March 31, surpassing Vodafone Group Plc’s 32.4 million and Deutsche Telekom AG’s 37 million, according to data compiled by Bloomberg Industries. Photographer: Ralph Orlowski/Bloomberg
Telefonica Sees Rapid Rollout of 4G in U.K.
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Aug. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Ronan Dunne, chief executive officer of Telefonica SA's O2 unit, discusses the company's launch of fourth-generation wireless services in the U.K. on August 29. He speaks with Francine Lacqua on Bloomberg Television's "The Pulse." (Source: Bloomberg)

“As a rule, the Federal Network Agency must guard the competitive independence of owners of frequency rights in an area of scarce resources,” Henseler-Unger wrote. “Ultimately, the Federal Network Agency can enforce this by withdrawing the frequency assignment.”

By agreeing to combine their German wireless assets in the 8.1 billion-euro ($10.8 billion) deal, Telefonica and KPN are laying down a challenge for European regulators, which in the past have blocked some telecommunications mergers or have required concessions that reduced projected cost savings.

The German transaction, which the companies plan to complete in mid-2014, will result in cost savings and revenue synergies of 5 billion euros to 5.5 billion euros, the carriers said last month.
Two Weeks

The Bonn-based telecommunications regulator will examine the proposal and has asked the companies to provide information within two weeks, according to the letter dated July 25. The agency will have to review whether the frequencies will still be “efficiently used” and whether the combination would hamper competition, Henseler-Unger wrote. The agency also plans to seek comments from competitors, she said.

KPN fell 0.9 percent to 1.98 euros at 12:33 p.m. Amsterdam time. Telefonica gained 0.1 percent to 10.87 euros in Madrid, while shares of the German unit added 0.3 percent in Frankfurt.

Telefonica Deutschland has “always said it seeks a swift clearance” of the deal from the relevant regulators, company spokesman Albert Fetsch said by telephone. The unit expects to successfully conclude talks with the Federal Network Agency in the next months, he said.
Antitrust Scrutiny

“We have immediately started talks with the relevant authorities as soon as the plan became public, but at this stage it is way too early to comment on who might do what under which circumstances,” Guido Heitmann, a spokesman for E-Plus, said by telephone. “The talks are only at the beginning.”

E-Plus and Telefonica Deutschland together would have a customer base of more than 43 million as of March 31, surpassing Vodafone Group Plc (VOD)’s 32.4 million and Deutsche Telekom AG (DTE)’s 37 million, according to data compiled by Bloomberg Industries. Counting wireless-service revenue, Telefonica Deutschland and E-Plus together remained smaller than Vodafone and T-Mobile.

In 2010, Telefonica, Deutsche Telekom and Vodafone bought 800 megahertz spectrum in an auction to cover rural areas with faster long-term evolution, or LTE, connections. E-Plus didn’t purchase that spectrum during the auction.

Telefonica and KPN also have to file for separate antitrust approval for the merger. Both the European Commission and the German Federal Cartel Office would be interested in reviewing a potential merger of Telefonica Deutschland and E-Plus, a person familiar with the matter said last year. Germany’s antitrust regulator won’t in principle rule out a reduction in market participants, another person said at the time, when KPN and Telefonica were holding talks about a merger of the assets.

In December, Hutchison Whampoa Ltd. (13)’s 1.3 billion-euro purchase of wireless carrier Orange Austria won European Union approval after the Hong Kong company agreed to divest spectrum and offer network access to new rivals.

Germany’s Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung reported the letter earlier today.

-- Editors: Kenneth Wong, Ville Heiskanen

To contact the reporter on this story: Karin Matussek in Berlin at kmatussek@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Kenneth Wong at kwong11@bloomberg.net

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:06

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Bets on Europe Ending Data-Roaming Charges Exaggerated
By Amy Thomson - Aug 6, 2013 11:01 AM GMT+0200

www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-05/bet...

Among the dirty words in today’s telecommunications world, few are more reviled than “roaming charges.” In Europe, because the mobile phone industry is so fragmented, they’re an expensive fact of life.

Neelie Kroes wants to change that. Kroes, the European Union commissioner drafting rules to stimulate the continent’s lagging phone networks, says roaming charges have to be eliminated in the region.
Enlarge image Expensive Roaming Charges Under Assault

Vodafone Group Plc, Europe’s biggest wireless company, and Germany’s Deutsche Telekom have roaming charges everywhere outside of their home markets. Photographer: Chris Ratcliffe/Bloomberg
EU Calls for EU-Wide Mobile Bundle Packages
4:22

July 23 (Bloomberg) -- European Commission spokesman Ryan Heath discusses the prospect of creating a single European telecommunications market, eliminating roaming fees and new regulation. He speaks from Brussels with Anna Edwards on Bloomberg Television's "The Pulse." (Source: Bloomberg)

“As a matter of principle, you just can’t have roaming,” said Ryan Heath, a spokesman for Kroes, in charge of the digital agenda at the European Commission, the EU’s executive arm. “We haven’t done this to take money away from people. We’ve done this to untangle the mess of fragmented markets.”

If a New Yorker flies to California -- about 2,500 miles -- and posts shots of celebrity sightings to her Facebook account, chances are she’ll pay as much as at home. If someone from Britain goes to France -- about 21 miles across the Strait of Dover -- each patisserie photo upload will cost an extra 1.40 pounds ($2.15).

Roaming charges make accessing the Internet expensive when traveling internationally, which can be very short distances in Europe. That hinders consumers from using data plans, one of the key areas of growth for the industry, and hurts businesses that work across borders, Kroes has said in speeches this year.
Maltese Market

Europe lags behind the U.S. and Asia in developing faster fourth-generation networks, and carriers have less money to invest in fixing that as price wars deter them from raising tariffs. The real barrier isn’t roaming, it’s that hundreds of providers operate across the bloc, driving down prices and making new customers scarce, chief executives of companies including Orange SA (ORA) and Telefonica SA (TEF) have said. Malta -- just 316 square kilometers (122 square miles) -- has three mobile operators and more than 100 percent penetration.

Kroes’ goal is to create an environment in which carriers can build networks and sell plans across the EU without getting tied up by conflicting regulations, and where customers can use their phones anywhere without running up terrifying bills or finding services like Skype blocked. Her Europe would be more like the U.S., where networks are faster and more people use data plans to access the Web on mobile devices.

Kroes’ proposals for a unified European telecommunications landscape are due in September. Heath declined to comment on specific points in the draft, which is still private. Then the European Parliament will discuss them and decide what to adopt as part of efforts to spur job growth and overhaul the regulatory framework for technology companies.
Wary Carriers

Getting support from a struggling wireless industry wary of anything that may cut off a revenue source and the dozens of local regulators eager to keep control over their phone networks is proving difficult. Regulations that cut the prices that carriers can charge for roaming or the wholesale prices that competitors have to pay to access their networks are already a burden, the companies have said.

“Price regulations have become a permanent feature of the market and are hampering investments,” the industry body ETNO said to the commission in June in a letter signed by the CEOs of Orange, Telefonica, Telecom Italia Spa (TIT), Deutsche Telekom AG (DTE) and others, provided to Bloomberg by a person directly involved with the negotiations. “The current framework is not adequate to allow operators to generate sufficient cash flows to foster investments in new state-of-the-art network infrastructure.”

Telekom Austria lost 2 percent to 5.16 euros at 10:51 a.m. in Vienna as Deutsche Telekom dropped 0.7 percent to 9.13 euros in Frankfurt. Orange fell 0.5 percent 7.37 euros in Paris.
Commissioners’ Opposition

It has also been hard to get other commissioners on board. Cabinet advisers to EU Justice Commissioner Viviane Reding and Algirdas Semeta, the tax commissioner, have given negative initial opinions on Kroes’ plan, people familiar with their thinking said, without detailing why.

Before the proposals can be submitted in September, they’ll need sign-off by the 28 commissioners, typically reached by consensus rather than a strict vote. Once submitted, they’ll need the backing of lawmakers in the European Parliament and EU nations before it’s made law across the 28-nation bloc.

Spokeswomen for Reding and Semeta declined to comment on the consultations.

The commission has already imposed caps on roaming charges that took effect July 1. Under Kroes’ new proposal, the ceiling would drop lower as of July 2014.
Roaming Alliances

Consumers can mitigate roaming charges by signing up for special packages, which offer roaming at a discount. Vodafone Group Plc (VOD), Europe’s biggest wireless company, based in Newbury, England, lets customers mitigate these charges by signing up for special packages, which offer roaming at a discount.

Eliminating roaming completely in the EU could hurt phone companies, encouraging users to practice phone-plan arbitrage by buying a cheap plan in one country and then returning home to roam permanently at no extra charge, Sanford C. Bernstein analyst Robin Bienenstock said in a note to investors.

“Roaming is the most surprising and potentially the most disruptive aspect of the draft regulation,” Bienenstock said, calling it “highly unlikely” the plan will create the pan-European regulatory coalition that Kroes envisioned.

“Instead, the regulation seems more likely to erode high data prices near term and cap any upside long term,” she said.

The commission will discourage arbitrage and encourage carriers to form alliances, reducing the incentives for people to shop around across the EU, Kroes spokesman Heath said.

Besides, Heath said, it’s not all bad news for the carriers, pointing to Kroes’ goals to make it easier to operate across borders and navigate local regulatory frameworks.

“Access to more and cheaper spectrum and our efforts to make the rollout of a network simpler” will offset some of the lost roaming revenue, Heath said. “It’s all got to be put into that perspective. It’s not us brushing the operators away.”

To contact the reporter on this story: Amy Thomson in London at athomson6@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Kenneth Wong at kwong11@bloomberg.net

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:17

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Misschien schreef op 8 augustus 2013 20:14:
Voor iedereen,

maak er een lekkere avond van en laat KPN een beetje los,
morgen nieuwe ronde en kansen.

Tini

Tini toch, had ik het net los gelaten, kwam jij weer...............

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:20

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Mr. Blok schreef op 8 augustus 2013 19:54:
3€ asap ,niet kwaad worden doemdenkers ik doe toch niets verkeerd.
Ik wijs jullie enkel op de feiten meer niet.

Natuurlijk doe je niets verkeerd, maar al die kreten van vandaag moet je eens nalezen

Of zijn dat de feiten?

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:24

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KPN versterkt financiële positie
Donderdag 8 augustus 2013 15:12
KPN maakte vorige week de verkoop van zijn Duitse dochter E-Plus aan Telefónica bekend. KPN ontvangt €5 mrd in contanten en een belang van 17,6% in Telefónica Deutschland. Naar aanleiding daarvan heeft Standard & Poor's (S&P) zijn outlook voor KPN verhoogd naar 'positief'. S&P verwacht dat KPN de opbrengsten zal gebruiken om zijn schuld/ebitda-ratio te verlagen met 0,7 tot ongeveer 2,6.
Risico's
De kredietbeoordeling voor KPN is door S&P gehandhaafd op BBB-, maar zal wanneer de verkoop is afgerond worden verhoogd. Dan moet wel de nettoschuld/ebitda-ratio onder de 3,0 blijven en moeten zowel de omzet- als ebitdatrends in 2014 stabiliseren. In tegenstelling tot S&P ziet Moody’s per saldo geen effect. Weliswaar versterkt de verkoop KPN’s financiële positie, maar Moody’s ziet ook de risico’s toenemen doordat de omvang en geografische spreiding afnemen. De kredietbeoordelaar heeft daarom zijn negatieve outlook en Baa2-rating voor KPN gehandhaafd.
Fitch, tot slot, heeft zijn BBB-rating bevestigd met stabiele vooruitzichten. De verkoop zal volgens Fitch zowel de schuld van KPN als de blootstelling van het bedrijf aan een moeilijke markt verklei

Peett 8 augustus 2013 21:31

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Komt goed met KPN.

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:48

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Ik zie hier een paar jaloerse,gefrustreerde mannen.

Inschatter 8 augustus 2013 21:51

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KaPeeN63 schreef op 8 augustus 2013 20:24:
Ka is ook weer terug. Net copuleus gegeten van de virtuele winst van vandaag van
Kpn, postnl, binck, arcelor en philips.
Dat is genieten al deze jongens in mijn portefeuille.

Wat doe je bij virtueel verlies, bijten op een houtje?

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:53

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Inschatter schreef op 8 augustus 2013 21:51:
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Wat doe je bij virtueel verlies, bijten op een houtje?

+ een knokige serveerster ;-)

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:54

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Mr. Blok schreef op 8 augustus 2013 21:48:
Ik zie hier een paar jaloerse,gefrustreerde mannen.

en waar is dat nou weer op gebaseerd?

Carla

BoterbijdeVis 8 augustus 2013 21:57

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novital schreef op 8 augustus 2013 20:02:
[...]

Ik ruik zaken, Hiep. Superzaken!

Ik ben bang dat Zwelgje alles op eet en dat er niets voor ons over blijft

[verwijderd] 8 augustus 2013 21:59

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BoterbijdeVis schreef op 8 augustus 2013 21:57:
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Ik ben bang dat Zwelgje alles op eet en dat er niets voor ons over blijft

zwelgje... Haha...ja mooi...

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